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01 July 2007

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I was recently told by a farmer that some organic pesticides, (and most pesticides in the US are organic) are highly toxic and not good for plants or people. His feeling was that an integrated insect approach is much safer than using organic pesticides and that sometimes conventional insecticides are better for the plants and for people eating the produce than organic ones. Food for thought, to be sure. I need to do some more research before I post about it, but it sure got me thinking...

Just want to say that we love your blog!

Tim and Liz
www.naturesharmonyfarm.com

Amy
I was baffled by your comment, 'most pesticides in the US are organic', was the farmer refering to organic vs inorganic in the chemistry sense of the word? When using 'organic' this way it means containing carbon. There are many 'organic' materials not allowed in organic agriculture.
Jeff

regarding organic pesticides being toxic: they're called pesticides for a reason. Funny how we can forget that.

Maybe he meant organic as in they contain carbon, nitrogen, and oxygen - in other words, they aren't elemental like Paris Green, sulfur, and arsenic (though sulfur is still widely used, and I guess arsenic probably is too in some instances).

Anyhow, what a great post and excellent blog. I know exactly what you mean about the infancy of the internet. Ah, those were the days...now I feel old.

I really didn't like "Maggie's" article. It was poorly written, without actual numbers and full of organic hype. Nothing against organic, but if you are going to cheer someone or something, cheer it with the proper writing and the right credentials. I didn"t find her on the net either.

I think this entire post and the speculation about "Maggie" is hilarious. You want to know why? Because she's my cousin. She officiated my wedding. She's one of my best friends. And you know what? She's a real person, not a Yahoo creation or whatever you conspiracy theorists may insinuate. She's Food Editor of one of the world's largest online news sites. Let's not denigrate people irresponsibly on the web (though some people think that's what it's for) -- especially a well-meaning blog that strives to be credible.

My favorite post is right on the mark:
20. Posted by scryer_360 on Thu, Jun 28, 2007, 8:59 am PDT

To the guy who asked about Organic Milk: do not buy it! To be organic, a product must come straight from the farm to the grocer shelve, only stopping for packaging. That means Organic milk is going to be unpastuerized! And to the BS pserson saying "doesn't it make you feel better that you can pronounce" the ingredients: it should not! Notice how that organic spinach was pulled from shelves? IT was organic, the company that produced it admitted it, and WholeFoods did too. Ask yourself this: when was the last time you read about someone dying from the pesticides in a food? Now ask this: when was the last time food poisoning killed someone? What most people do not know is that most plants naturally produce their own pesticides. Where do you think humans got them? We just came up with the stuff? No, we refined and produced existing ones, from the plants. As for bacteria: non organics will be covered in less. Why? Because those foods are irradiated to kill the bacteria. Thats what the processing does. For a final word: I currently am at school at Missouri State University. Our professors in the subjects of Botany and Agriculture have both stated that there is no scientific basis for Organic foods to be healthier than Conventionally grown foods. I took a course on Botany, and will say now that nutrient density is not based on the amount of pesticide sprayed. The words straight from my professors mouth: "The Organic craze is nothing but un-researched, hippy-spread bull****." Believe organic is better for you all you want. And believe too that mom-and-pop farmers do not use pesticide. I live in such a place that I know many farmers, and many people studying agriculture. Ask any Professor of Botany, Biology, or Agriculture the truth about the organics craze.

Oh, by the way, organic is wasteful. Quit trying to move us backwards to the past. Oraganic is a scam along the same lines as: oxygenated fuels
freon free airconditioning
the RoHS initiative
battery powered Prius type vehicles

These items all cost more, pollute more and are less effective..why do people like you push this stuff?!!

Commenting a year later...I wouldn't be surprised if this Fred character is suffering from some sort of cancer or illness...does he not read up on what toxic things humans have put into our food and atmosphere? So ignorant are some people. What we're eating and living in today is why there are so many sick people...they might not be dying - but they are sick with disease. Wonder where it comes from Fred...

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